This watermelon joint is officially the most amazing thing I have ever seen! Watch our friend Tony Greenhand take party joints to a level most of us wouldn’t even dream of. Want to see what else this joint master is up to? Check out his Instagram.
Forget the Watermelon Crawl. Tony creates the world’s largest joint, a 4.2-pound behemoth made to look like a watermelon! Now they need to write a new song, “The Watermelon Blaze”. This is no easy feat. It takes time, tenacity, and a whole lot of weed to do something like this.
In order to accomplish this record breaking weed spectacle, he teamed up with She Smokes Joints and the CO2 Company.
People have already bet me; 14 souls said it can’t be done. Well, it’s gonna be done!
What does it take to roll a joint of truly epic proportions? Start with a lot, and I mean a LOT of papers. At over a foot tall, almost a foot wide, and an inch thick at the rim to keep it all inside, that’s almost a tree trunk. Greehand lays out papers stuck together in a line almost 8-feet long. Then, he widens it out.
Fast forward through what must have taken hours, and the final joint is amazing. But his secret to good airflow took over a dozen kebab skewers to vent the joint.
To smoke this masterpiece of marijuana engineering, he had to build it a stand. With funnel tube attached with papers poking out the bottom, he was a hit at this party!
Imagine what it must have been like to take a toke from this! Just to keep it lit took a torch. The smoke coming off it would give a whole room a buzz. The heat gets so strong, he roasts a marshmallow over the cherry.
Now we all have new dreams. Thanks, Tony Greenhand. Watch the epic video below!
Would you, could you roll a joint this big? With this record tucked away, what will he do next? Share your ideas on social media or in the comments below.
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The DEA says cannabis cultivation might be as bad as meth houses in Colorado? That’s the gist of their June report that focused on the laws in the Mile High State that let residents grow their own. But how could they possibly compare cannabis growers to meth labs? They can do anything. They are the government, after all.
The report, titled: “Residential Marijuana Grows in Colorado: The New Meth Houses?”, criticizes loopholes in state law. Colorado limits adults to 6 plants at home for personal use, but there is an exception. You can grow for others as well.
Under Amendment 64, which allows for growing and consuming in your own home, you can also “assist” another adult in “possessing, growing, processing, or transporting” cannabis.
Under Amendment 20, caregivers who grow cannabis for the medical purposes of others can grow up to 99 plants in their residence.
The DEA claims that these loopholes allow prospective growers to get past the personal limit and turn residential homes into massive grow operations. Colorado’s MED office (Marijuana Enforcement Division) only regulates licensed grow operations for commercial distribution.
So any unlicensed home grow falls under the gray area of the amendments above. There have been many instances since legalization passed in the state where houses have been raided by police only to be left alone.
Their paperwork and patient registry let these caregivers keep their plants. Others have used the assumption as a ruse to grow as they please, and lost it all.
In the DEA report, the agency claims:
Much like the ‘meth houses’ of the 1990’s. Many of these homes may ultimately be rendered uninhabitable.
Wait, what? Anyone with a brain knows the reason meth turns houses into health hazards is because of toxic chemicals. Cannabis isn’t “chemically manufactured”. It’s a plant. But that doesn’t stop the ganja Gestapo from twisting the truth for their own ends.
The report goes on to claim that growers leave houses uninhabitable because they modify electrical systems to put in grow lights, and cut holes in walls for ventilation leaving the houses “structurally unsound”.
Who cuts through load-bearing beams for a breeze? Nobody. People do more remodeling for a new kitchen or bathroom than an exhaust unit. And how is the electrical modification for grow lights any different than that done for a wood shop in the garage? Either the DEA doesn’t know squat about home improvement, or they hope most Americans don’t.
This propaganda piece goes on to say there is a plague of complaints about residential grows. Numerous calls to police based on “Strong odors, excessive noise from industrial air-conditioning units, blown electrical transformers, and heavy vehicle traffic” have supposedly overwhelmed local law enforcement.
Frankly, the cat lady’s house smells worse, and the big family with the BBQ and music blasting every weekend makes far more noise. My washer and dryer make more noise that a cannabis grow’s air unit.
They even try to link home grows to interstate drug trafficking by stating the system is,
Extensively exploited by traffickers who operate large grows to supply out-of-state markets.
Where is the proof to back these speculations? Or the data to quantify it? The government tosses words like “numerous, many, much, most, and probably” around a lot when no real evidence exists.
Kyle Sherman, CEO of Flowhub, a Colorado-based cannabis-software company, says the claims are ridiculous. His response email to Business Insider stated,
The fear behind indoor grow houses strictly comes from an irrational fear of cannabis. While extracting cannabis oils inside a home can be dangerous, the typical small home grow is nothing like a ‘meth house.’
This prohibition-era language is being used to misguide people on a topic they simply haven’t been educated on.
Is the DEA trying to manipulate public sentiment ahead of their decision on rescheduling? Or is this type of propaganda simply automatic for them? Share your thoughts on social media or in the comments below.
Getting all your smoking gear has never been simpler. These days, you can order weed subscription boxes right to your door, packed with smoking essentials for your every need. But everyone smokes their own way. With all the big name celebrities coming out of the cannabis closet, a new trend of specially curated boxes is hitting the market. Now you can smoke with the gear that big name weed lovers can’t do without! Introducing celebrity curated subscription boxes from Hemper.co.
Hemper works with cannabis celebrities, from YouTube sensations like CustomGrow420, to big names like Cypress Hill.
Their August promotion features 25 days of Cypress Hill, to celebrate Cypress Hill’s 25th Anniversary. The guys actually sat down and put this limited edition curated box together themselves.
Ever bought a box that claims it was curated by a celebrity, only to find some knock-off products and a bunch of stickers? What a ripoff! Having a Tommy Chong roller doesn’t mean he helped pick out the goodies. Worse, so many just have a sticker with the logo, and call it a “themed” box.
MedTainer, Highly Educated, and more, you get name brand merchandise along with Hemper’s own lines of products.
Don’t be fooled by cheap imitators, go with the one true innovator. Hemper offers every feature you could ever want, (other than the herb itself). You’ll always have discreet shipping & billing, an easy-to-open box, and high-quality, name-brand merchandise.
With customizable plans, you get exactly what you need, without the fillers. Every customer gets the same items, no grab bags. And at half the cost (and double the value) of other services, you can get your gear with more money left over for the herb you love.
Plus, not only do you get all your smoking essentials, but they throw in surprise items you never knew you needed! They keep their ear to the ground for the latest innovations in smoking accessories and help you stay ahead of the curve.
Not everyone smokes the same way, and Hemper knows this. Their box plans go from Bare Essentials at just $.99 to Glassentials for $29.99 with a new glass piece in every box. Build your collection, your way!
The only real choice for convenience and quality, Hemper doesn’t buy into the stoner stereotype. They only offer the best for a cultivated cannabis lifestyle.
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Do you want to see the exclusive Cypress Hill curated box? Have you been waiting for a company to bring big time celebrities in on the fun? Tell us on social media or in the comments below.
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There ain’t no bones about it! Compounds in the cannabis plant may help prevent bone diseases and even make them stronger after fracture. Diseases like osteoporosis and osteoarthritis are painful and debilitating. Osteoporosis can make bones so brittle that they break even after a soft fall. Research conducted over the past several years has found that cannabinoids may be potent therapeutic agents for protecting against painful bone diseases, arthritis, and injury. Here’s how cannabis helps protect you from bone diseases.
There’s good news for anyone with a break or fracture out there! 2015 research from the Tel Aviv University and the Hebrew University found that nonpsychoactive cannabidiol (CBD) may help heal broken bones. When you get a fracture, your body produces what’s called a “fracture callus”, building a natural “bridge” between the areas of the break. This bridge is made of cartilage.
The researchers found that cannabinoid receptors can trigger bone formation and strengthen the bridge that connects broken bones. The study was performed in rat models, which is how most osteoporosis drugs are tested prior to clinical trials. In their study, researchers injected rats with broken thigh bones with either straight CBD or a combination of CBD and psychoactive THC.
The results of the experiment were pretty amazing. THC did not show to have much of any effect when it came to speeding up the body’s self-healing mechanisms. But, pure CBD did. The scientists found that bones of rats treated with CBD alone not only healed faster but the previous fracture was less likely to break in the future because of a strengthened fracture callus.
The study estimated that the treated bone is 35-50% stronger than a non-treated bone.
The finding that components in the cannabis plant help mend broken bones is incredible. But, researchers have known that there is a connection between cannabinoids and bone health for quite some time. The exact way our own endocannabinoids, the cannabis-like compounds produced by our own bodies, aid bone development is unclear.
What is clear, however, is that the endocannabinoid system does play a major role in maintaining the health of our bones. One way it does this is by facilitating a process known as bone metabolism, or bone remodeling.
The stresses of daily life put strain on your bones. Bone metabolism is the process in which old bone material is replaced by new bone material. This keeps your bones healthy and strong throughout your life. Your body builds new bone growth in order to combat the micro-damage that occurs on a daily basis. In all, a healthy adult body will replace about 10% of your bone structure each year.
An article published in the British Journal of Pharmacology in 2011 found that fatty acid amides (FAAs) help coordinate the process of bone metabolism by interacting with cannabinoid receptors.
FAAs are important because they are broken down by a particular enzyme that’s blocked by CBD. That enzyme is called FAAH. It’s been known for quite some time that CBD inhibits FAAH. This means that it prevents the enzyme from breaking down bone-forming compounds.
The exact implications of this are still unclear in the scientific research. But, nonetheless, the endocannabinoid system plays a part in preserving the strength of your bones and combatting bone diseaeses.
According to lead study authors Itia Bab and Reem Smoum,
…Inhibition of FAAH, the FAA degrading enzyme, may prove as a useful therapeutic strategy to combat osteoporosis and perhaps other skeletal deficits.
Aside from breaks and fractures due to accident or injury, there are a couple of bone diseases that cannabis may be able to help. Namely, osteoporosis and osteoarthritis. Here’s an explanation of how cannabis may prevent these painful bone diseases.
Osteoporosis is a disease in which the bones become brittle from either aging or a lack of proper nutrients. Thanks to bone metabolism, your bones are constantly being broken down and replaced. Osteoporosis occurs when new bone cells aren’t being created as fast as older bone cells are diminishing.
In terms of maintaining bone strength, nonpsychoactive CBD is a supplement worth exploring. But, other cannabinoids also might prove to be potent preventative medicines. Cannabigerol (CBG) is another nonpsychoactive cannabis compound, and it is currently being examined for its potential bone healing properties.
THC, the chemical that gives you the ‘high’ when you consume cannabis, may also hold some value in preventing brittle bones. Turns out, CB1 receptors are found inside bones, in the brain, and throughout the gut. The CB1 receptor is one of 2 primary cell receptors that THC connects to in your body.
THC connects to cell receptors in all of these areas. The cannabinoid then influences the biochemical processes at work in these regions.
A 2009 study published in Cell Metabolism found that the CB1 cell receptor is linked to the development of age-related osteoporosis. The research used mice as test subjects. According to the study, mice that didn’t have any CB1 receptors at all developed thick bones but still suffered from osteoporosis.
When the British research team further examined bone density in these mice, they found that they had more fat deposits inside the bone. This area is supposed to be filled with bone marrow.
Simply explained, the CB1 receptor protects bones by regulating how much mature bone material is broken down and reabsorbed in the body. This is why mice without the receptor had thicker bones. Old bone material wasn’t being slumped off and reused by the body.
They also articulate that the CB1 receptor controls how much fat was stored inside the bone, along with the formation of new bone cells. When you’ve got a lot of fat in your bones, they’re more likely to break. Fatty bones lead to osteoporosis.
Another 2009 study conducted by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem found a connection between CB2 receptors and bone density in mice. CB2 receptors are the other primary cannabinoid receptor in the body. Mice with mutated CB2 receptors had a lower bone density than those that did not.
The researchers reported that one major role of the CB2 receptor was to protect against age-related bone loss. It did this by regulating balanced bone metabolism. Both CBG and THC interact with the CB2 receptor.
The report also found that alterations in the gene responsible for coding CB2 receptor may cause post-menopausal osteoporosis in humans. All of these findings are strong evidence that the endocannabinoid system is a promising therapeutic target for bone diseases, particularly ones that are age-related.
Osteoarthritis is the most common form of arthritis worldwide. It affects most people as they age. Yet, injuries, obesity, and repeated stress can also cause this type of arthritis. Over time, the cartilage between bones and surrounding joints begins to break down. This results in severe pain, achiness, and difficulty moving the affected body part.
This disease most often impacts joints around the hip, knee, hand, and back. Common symptoms include:
There is no cure for osteoarthritis. However, a handful of studies show that marijuana has some interesting potential. Back in 2000, a team of British researchers tested the effects of CBD on arthritis in mice. The mice were injected with forms of collagen-induced arthritis, which is meant to mimic the symptoms of human arthritis in the rodent’s body.
Once the mice began showing symptoms, the researchers treated them with pure CBD. The CBD stopped the progression of arthritis in the rodents.
But that’s not all. A different team had success with cannabinoids in human cartilage earlier this year. Researchers treated pieces of cartilage with synthetic cannabinoids. The cartilage contained proteins associated with osteoarthritis. The team found that cannabinoids deactivated the arthritis-associated enzyme proteins, slowing down the decay.
There’s also some potential for cannabinoids in cartilage engineering. An experimental paper published in 2010 suggested that cannabinoids prolong the lives of mesenchymal stem cells. These stem cells can be used to create new cartilage, making them very important to the future of arthritis treatment.
The study authors hypothesized that we may be able to use cannabinoids to better engineer cartilage replacements.
Though results from these studies have positive results, clinical trials in humans are needed in order to tell if CBD and other cannabinoid therapies are effective in halting arthritis progression in our own bodies.
So, cannabis has the potential to slow cartilage breakdown in osteoarthritis. What else can it do? Recent research suggests that cannabinoids may ease osteoarthritis pain in a unique way.
A review published in 2014 suggests that the endocannabinoid system plays a role in osteoarthritis pain. The article articulates that cannabinoids may be crucial medicinal targets for osteoarthritis management. The endocannabinoid system has been shown to influence the body’s inflammatory and pain responses, and also helps maintain joint and bone health.
Another study published the same year confirmed that the CB2 receptor contributes to osteoarthritis pain. Researchers wanted to see if synthetic cannabinoids would ease arthritis pain in both human and animal models. So, they began by treating osteoarthritic rats with a synthetic cannabinoid.
When they activated the CB2 receptor, pain signals in rodents decreased. The research team then turned to humans. They found that the spinal cord tissue lit up with CB2 receptors. The spinal cord is one of the primary pain messengers in the body. When you feel a sensation of pain, your spinal cord helps coordinate the message from your body to your brain.
The researchers also noticed something else. There is a clear link between the severity of arthritis and the amount of CB2 receptors in the spinal cord. One of the study authors, Victoria Chapman, explains,
This finding is significant, as spinal and brain pain signalling pathways are known to make a major contribution to pain associated with osteoarthritis. These new data support the further evaluation of the selective cannabinoid-based interventions for the treatment of osteoarthritis pain. – Chapman
Cannabinoids may prove beneficial for helping you recover from broken bones and for preventing bone diseases like osteoporosis and osteoarthritis. But, marijuana can also be a useful aid for coping with the pain caused by these injuries and weaknesses. Here are a few additional ways cannabis can help:
The ache and sharp pains from a fracture can drive you crazy. Fortunately, there are a few ways cannabis may be a useful coping tool. With any break, you’re likely to receive a temporary prescription for painkillers from your doctor.
More often than not, people with broken bones are prescribed opioids. Some studies show that smoking cannabis in tandem with opioids enables you to consume lower doses of both substances with enhanced pain-fighting abilities.
Though, if you live in a state without legal medical cannabis, opioid contracts will prevent you from being able to consume cannabis. If you’re looking to avoid opioids altogether, other studies have shown that cannabis is a viable alternative as a strong pain reliever.
If you’ve broken a bone at any point in your life, it’s not uncommon to feel pain in that area long after the injury has healed. Prescription painkillers are often lacking when it comes to managing of chronic pain, be it from ache after a break or arthritis pain. Staying on prescription painkillers for extended periods of time can lead to tolerance, harmful side effects, and addiction.
This is where cannabis comes in. Cannabis is often seen as a far safer and more effective medicine for the long-term treatment of chronic pain. Not only can cannabinoids help bones heal faster, but the endocannabinoid system helps regulate your body’s pain response.
Compounds like THC and CBD are potent analgesics that engage this system, alleviating pain while also avoiding some of the harsh side-effects of prescription painkillers.
Inflammation plays a big role in all bone diseases. In the event that you fracture or break a bone, the area is going to swell up fast. In arthritis, painful inflammation surrounds the joints where bones rub together. Some inflammation is healthy. But, if it persists, it will prevent you from healing. Inflammation can also lead to a build-up of scar tissue.
Cannabis fights inflammation in a few ways. You can consume it orally via vapor, oil, or an edible. You can also use it topically, to deliver potent pain and inflammation-fighting medicine right to the source. Rubbing a cannabis topical (recipe below) over the inflamed area can reduce the amount of fluid buildup and tissue damage that occurs around the break.
Those who want the benefits of the herb without a high might also enjoy dietary cannabis. In a way, cannabis is the ultimate superfood. You can make anti-inflammatory juices and smoothies out of raw cannabis fan leaves and buds.
Using fresh cannabis enables you to get a much stronger dose of inflammation-fighting compounds and antioxidants than you do with smoked bud. For more information on the benefits of dietary cannabis, click here.
Whether you have a bone disease and are interested in experimenting with medical cannabis, or if you’re looking for some much-needed pain relief from a fracture or arthritis, here are a few home remedies that you might find useful:
As always, we won’t have clear answers as to how exactly marijuana affects our bones until clinical trials are completed. However, there is strong evidence that compounds in cannabis may help prevent brittle bones and preserve bone health.
It’s been shown in animal models that CBD can help broken bones heal faster as well as halt the progression of arthritis. The plant also works wonders in treating the pain and inflammation surrounding bone breaks, fractures, and arthritis.
Have you used cannabis to cope with a break? What about bone diseases like osteoporosis or arthritis? Share your experience with us on social media or in the comments section below. We’d love to hear what you have to say.
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For those who watched the irreverent comedy, Seinfeld, you know the crazy. Crackpot theories abounded on every subject. But in a 1993 episode, George Costanza dipped into a hot pot of debate on double-dipping that scarred our psyches. The idea of germs never leaves a warm fuzzy feeling. But it turns out that this phobic faux pas has been proven valid by science.
When George went back for seconds on the same chip, a fellow mourner objected with disgust:
That’s like putting your whole mouth right in the dip!
Now, according to Dr. Robert Shmerling, editor of Harvard’s Healthbeat, research confirms the possible dangers.
Several diseases spread through human saliva, including Tuberculosis, Legionnaires’ disease, and Pneumonic plague. Shmerling said:
This research does raise the possibility that a person who is sick might spread a disease by re-dipping a chip.
The scientific study calculated the amounts of bacteria spread into a bowl of dip from a double dipped crisp. The results varied based on the thickness of the dip in question.
For example, salsa was the worst offender. The runny nature of the substance meant more bacteria-infected saliva was able to fall off into the bowl on the second dip. Other party favorites, like guacamole, chocolate, or cheese, showed less likely contamination. But if you have ever had a chip break off in the mix, you realize there is little safety in thickness.
Many of us might be guilty of this crime against communal hygiene. But it took the show that analyzed social nuances in soup lines and salsa situations to point this out. After watching the show so long ago, my chip technique changed. If I had to have another swipe of the stuff, I either broke my chip in half or turned to the clean edge.
It turns out that scientific advice confirms this new etiquette. If you must double dip, turn the chip around.
You, yes you, could potentially save a life today. Double dipping risks the health of millions of party-goers and families across the country. Americans, known for their food enthusiasm and revelry are at greater risk of dying by dip-related disease.
We need Gloria Estefan singing “Turn the Chip Around” at every USO show, posters in every hospital, and most of all, you. Tell your friends, your family, your coworkers. Turn the chip around, ladies and gentleman. The life you save might be your own.
Have you guilty of double-dipping? Share your shame with us on social media or in the comments below.
A local physician, a teacher, and a 23-year veteran of the DEA will join initiative proponents for a news conference in Phoenix to kick off the ‘Yes on 205’ campaign and highlight the benefits of replacing marijuana prohibition with a regulated system
PHOENIX — State officials have informed supporters of the initiative to regulate marijuana like alcohol in Arizona that a sufficient number of voter signatures were collected to qualify for the November ballot. The Arizona Secretary of State is expected to officially certify their petition on Thursday, at which time the initiative will be placed on the ballot as Proposition 205.
The Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol will officially kick off the “Yes on 205” campaign with a news conference Thursday at 10 a.m. at 3230 E. Broadway Rd. #260 in Phoenix. Campaign leaders will be joined by a Scottsdale physician, a Mesa teacher, and a 23-year veteran of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), who will discuss why they support replacing marijuana prohibition with a system in which marijuana is regulated and taxed similarly to alcohol.
“Eighty-three years ago, Arizona voters approved a ballot measure to repeal the failed policy of alcohol prohibition,” said J.P. Holyoak, chairman of the Yes on 205 campaign. “This November, we will have the opportunity to end the equally disastrous policy of marijuana prohibition. Prop 205 would establish a more sensible system in which marijuana is regulated and taxed similarly to alcohol.”
Prop 205 would allow adults 21 and older to possess limited amounts of marijuana; establish a system in which marijuana is regulated similarly to alcohol; and enact a 15 percent tax on retail marijuana sales, from which a majority of the revenue would be directed to Arizona schools and education programs. The Arizona Joint Legislative Budget Committee estimated the initiative would generate more than $123 million in annual tax revenue and license fees by 2020, including more than $55 million per year for K-12 education and full-day kindergarten programs.
For Immediate Release
Advisory for event TOMORROW (Thu.) at 10 a.m.
Barrett Marson, Communications Director
602-743-4120, [email protected]
WHAT: News conference to launch the “Yes on 205” campaign; the initiative to regulate marijuana in Arizona will be placed on the November ballot as Proposition 205 by the end of the day Thursday
WHEN: Thursday, August 11, 10 a.m. MST
WHERE: 3230 E. Broadway Rd. #260, Phoenix
WHO: Yes on 205 campaign leaders
Michael Capasso, Phoenix-based 23-year veteran of the DEA
Lisa Olson, Mesa-based teacher
Dr. Jeffrey Singer, Scottsdale-based general surgeon
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It looks like the love of cannabis has hit even the highest political circles. It appears the First Daughter takes after dear old dad, as a video has emerged of Malia Obama at a concert. In the video, you can see her avoiding the camera as she puffs on a hand rolled “something”. Good for you, girl!
Generally, you don’t reach back to take a puff off someone else’s cigarette and then hand it back. This “puff, puff, pass” was probably grass. You can be sure that the public will create an uproar over this, but truth be told, we should be proud. Illinois recently decriminalized possession up to 10 grams.
The Lollapalooza music festival took place on July 31st in Chicago. Other video shows the 18-year-old dancing and having a good time with friends. The person who leaked the video, 18-year-old Jerrdin Selwyn, is quoted as saying:
I caught Malia smoking pot and I have the pictures to prove it. You could smell the marijuana smoke. I saw some young guy hand her a cigarette and she took at least one hit.
We should show our support for her choice to embrace the herb, and let it shine as a beacon of acceptance. We can only hope she one day advocates for it as fervently as the rest of us. But until Barack gets out of office, that doesn’t seem likely.
Malia already has our attention for her independence when she skipped the DNC event to go to the concert. Other incidents place her at The Sugar Factory in Amsterdam earlier this year.
You know, some presidents cash in on the fame of office in different ways. Some write books, some speak at seminars. What would be the odds of the first President to start his own cannabis label be? How about his daughter? Any takers on that bet?
There’s no better way to enjoy the herb than with great music and lots of people having a good time. Malia must be under a lot of pressure. At least she is starting to make responsible choices in how she chooses to unwind.
Should we pay so much attention to famous people’s personal lives? Share with us on social media or in the comments below.
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